{"id":9400,"date":"2019-04-18T19:08:56","date_gmt":"2019-04-18T19:08:56","guid":{"rendered":"http:\/\/first-pepperoni.flywheelsites.com\/?p=9400"},"modified":"2025-10-27T21:51:41","modified_gmt":"2025-10-27T21:51:41","slug":"expert-pebbles-plan-doesnt-add-up","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/2019\/04\/18\/expert-pebbles-plan-doesnt-add-up\/","title":{"rendered":"Expert: Pebble\u2019s Plan Doesn\u2019t Add Up"},"content":{"rendered":"\n<h3 class=\"wp-block-heading\">Former Rio Tinto staffer says the mine could lose billions under current scenario.<\/h3>\n\n\n\n<p>Pebble Limited Partnership\u2019s bid to establish an open pit mine at the headwaters of the world\u2019s richest sockeye fishery doesn\u2019t pencil out financially, according to an international mining expert.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Instead, its latest plan appears to be a Trojan horse designed to gain entry for what will eventually be an even larger and more damaging open-pit copper and gold mine near <a href=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/campaigns\/bristol-bay\/\">Bristol Bay, Alaska,<\/a> home to a $1.5 billion salmon fishing economy and dozens of communities that depend on salmon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>This expert testimony comes in the midst of the <a href=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/2019\/03\/18\/take-action-stop-pebble-mine\/\">U.S. Army Corps of Engineers\u2019 90-day comment period<\/a> on a hastily develop environmental impact statement (DEIS) that did not require Pebble to clearly state its business case.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p><strong><span class=\"e2ma-style\">You have until June 29 to <a href=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/2019\/03\/18\/take-action-stop-pebble-mine\/\">send your comments<\/a> to the Army Corps of Engineers: Tell them to stop a sham permitting process.<\/span><\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<hr class=\"wp-block-separator\"\/>\n\n\n\n<p>As proposed, the project is \u201calmost certainly not economically feasible,\u201d Richard Borden, an independent environmental consultant who spent 23 years working for Rio Tinto PLC, <a href=\"https:\/\/www.nrdc.org\/sites\/default\/files\/mccoy-pebble-mine-economics-letter-20190328.pdf\">wrote to the Army Corps<\/a>. Rio Tinto was one of three mining giants that abandoned huge investments in the Pebble project. \u201cThese are approximate, back-of-the-envelope calculations,\u201d he added, because Pebble has not established a business plan to fully evaluate.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>In 2011, Pebble\u2019s proponents commissioned a study that estimated a fully permitted mine would produce a $3.8 billion profit in the first 25 years of an operation that could continue for a century, given the massive deposits of rich ore located far below the tundra.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Under the latest proposal up for federal review, which proposes harvesting low-grade ore at shallower depths for 20 years, Pebble would lose $3 billion, said Borden.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>As proposed, the project would require roughly $6.7 billion in intrusive infrastructure construction, including a massive toxic waste pond surrounded by what would be the largest earthen containment dam ever built.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"attachment-9407\" class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"1200\" height=\"696\" src=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9407\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI.jpg 1200w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI-600x348.jpg 600w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI-300x174.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI-1024x594.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/Pebble-tailings-PhaseI-768x445.jpg 768w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 1200px) 100vw, 1200px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p>Scientists warn the dam has a significant risk of failure over time, with potentially catastrophic effect on Bristol Bay salmon.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The Army Corps impact statement estimates the new Pebble Mine proposal would damage 3,458 acres of wetlands, and would affect 80 miles of salmon streams in the region.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>The impact would be even larger if Pebble were to expand to a large footprint to mine over a 78-year period, a scenario it has previously contemplated.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Such expansion is Pebble\u2019s real intention, testified former Alaska legislator Rick Halford at a state hearing recently: \u201cThis mine is at least a mile deep and it\u2019s the richest at depth, and to mine your way down to the money and then stop is a ridiculous assumption.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Tom Collier, CEO of the Pebble Limited Partnership, concedes: \u201cit would be unlikely that in the future someone wouldn\u2019t want to take some portion if not all of the rest of the ore out of the ground.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p>Ron Thiessen, CEO of Vancouver, B.C.-based Northern Dynasty Minerals, which controls Pebble, has said: \u201c\u2026This project, it\u2019s a multi-generational opportunity. It\u2019s&nbsp;size&nbsp;and scale will lead to a&nbsp;very, very long&nbsp;life mine\u2026 And when you build the infrastructure in there and you\u2019ve got a concentrator, you can feed it forever.\u201d<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div id=\"attachment-9457\" class=\"wp-block-image is-style-default\"><figure class=\"alignright\"><img loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" width=\"2160\" height=\"1551\" src=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality.jpg\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-9457\" srcset=\"https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality.jpg 2160w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-600x431.jpg 600w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-300x215.jpg 300w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-1024x735.jpg 1024w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-768x551.jpg 768w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-1536x1103.jpg 1536w, https:\/\/wildsalmoncenter.org\/wp-content\/uploads\/2019\/04\/PebblePitch-vs-reality-2048x1471.jpg 2048w\" sizes=\"auto, (max-width: 2160px) 100vw, 2160px\" \/><\/figure><\/div>\n\n\n\n<p><strong>Pebble is pitching a &#8220;smaller&#8221; mine foot print, but in reality it is just the beginning and will open the way for a much larger mining operation. 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